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Why is there such a generational divide in views on sex and gender in Britain? ( Susanna Rustin) - wormwood - Jun 5 2025
Entirely predictably, this typically thoughtful piece has been greeted with howls of “She is saying you’re more of a woman if you bear a child!” “Did this TERF never talk to other women?” and other such wilful misreadings.
It’s pretty clear she’s saying that some of the ways in which the female sex is oppressed are most deeply felt when they are physically gone through, and that women and girls need sex-based protection because our sex makes us vulnerable in different ways from males.
Lived experience is politically significant. Unless you’re a TERF, in which case, shut up, witch.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/05/generational-divide-views-sex-gender-britain
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Differing attitudes to women’s and transgender rights activism are often said to be generational. One poll, published a month on from the supreme court ruling that the legal definition of “woman” in the Equality Act is based on biological sex, found 63% supportiveof the ruling and 18% opposed. But younger people were far more likely to be in the latter camp, with 53% of 18- to 24-year-olds disagreeing with the judgment. In my age group, 50-64, the figure was just 13%. Such results echo earlier polls.
As with any attempt to link a demographic with a point of view, there are plenty of exceptions. Last month Lady Hale, the octogenarian former president of the supreme court, became one of them when she argued that the ruling had been misinterpreted, telling a literary festival she had met doctors “who said there is no such thing as biological sex”.
The progressive explanation for the age gap is in the name: progress. As the arc of history bends towards justice, younger people are ahead of the curve. Social scientists call this a cohort effect, which basically means that when you are born is one of the influences (along with income, education and so on) on your politics. In relation to transgender rights, the reasoning is that people born since the 1980s are more relaxed about sex and sexuality, and more committed to personal freedoms including the right to define one’s own identity. The obvious catch to this analysis, at the moment, is the way some young men have swung towards the hard right.
If a cohort effect applies when it comes to gender, and assuming that future cohorts are in agreement, gender identity advocates can look forward to winning this argument eventually. Older, conservative voters (and politicians and judges and journalists such as me), who don’t think someone’s trans identity should take precedence over their biological sex when society decides which sports teams or prisons they belong in, are just causing a delay. This was the view endorsed by David Lammy in 2021 when he said there were “dinosaurs […] in our own party” who want to “hoard rights”. The extinction of such people would, he implied, sort things out in the end.
Along with other middle-aged, gender-critical women, I have got used to dismissals such as Lammy’s. One of us, Victoria Smith, wrote a book about such attitudes and called it Hags. But terminology aside, I think those who characterise this struggle as being between young progressives and ageing reactionaries are mistaken. While I fully support transgender people’s right to be protected from discrimination, I don’t regard the erosion of sex-based entitlements – including single-sex sports and spaces – in favour of an ethos of “inclusion” as either liberal or leftwing.
On the contrary, I think valuing inclusion over bodily privacy (in changing rooms) or fairness (in sports) is sexist – since women are more disadvantaged by these changes than men. And while gender identity campaigners claim autonomy and choice as progressive, even socialist, values, I see their emphasis on the individual’s right to self-definition as congruent with consumer capitalism. Multinational corporations, including banks and retailers, embrace Stonewall’s Workplace Equality Index and fly Progress Pride flags from their buildings because the shift away from the class politics of redistribution towards the identity politics of personal expression suits them.
In 2023 the 40th British Social Attitudes survey described the widening age gap in UK politics as “a puzzle”, with changing party loyalties only partly mirrored in answers to questions seeking to place people on a left-right spectrum or a liberal-authoritarian one. To anyone looking for answers to the question of why such age differences exist – in relation to the supreme court or other issues – I would suggest that as well as cohorts (gen X versus Z and so on), they should consider the life cycle. Clearly, some things matter more to people as they get older, pensions being an obvious example. What if biological sex is another?
This rings true with aspects of my own experience. For example, it wasn’t until I had children that I learned about birth injuries, came face to face with pregnancy and maternity discrimination, or understood that the gender pay gap is also a motherhood penalty. It’s not that I hadn’t been aware of my female body before this. But one of the things about having babies is the way that the biological and social become so enmeshed. More recently, I’ve become fascinated by female evolutionary thinkers such as Sarah Hrdy, whose life’s work has been to explore this tangle.
Now, at 53, there is menopause and ageing. Most weeks my yoga teacher has something to say about the importance for women of strength-building exercises to ward off osteoporosis; of keeping our femur bones firmly in our hip sockets and using muscles to hold our reproductive organs in place.
That male and female bodies go wrong in different ways is nothing new: the most common cancer for women worldwide is breast cancer, while in England prostate cancer is the most frequently diagnosed in men. What has only recently become better known, thanks to advances in medical research and campaigners such as Caroline Criado Perez, is that even when we get the same diseases there are differences, with examples including heart disease, Parkinson’s and dementia.
As with reproduction, later-life physiological divergences have social and economic consequences. Social care is a feminist issue due to women’s greater longevity, as well as the sector’s predominantly female workforce. Most of the poorest pensioners are single women as many wives outlive their husbands, but also because of lower average lifetime earnings linked to women taking breaks from employment to care for children.
And what about men? Like women, the older they are, the less likely they are to tell pollsters that gender identity should replace biological sex as a legal and social category. This makes sense to me, since my argument is that consciousness of sexual difference accumulates across the life-course. The fact that men are far less likely to be actively involved in campaigning on this issue than gender-critical women – even when they agree with us – is also easy to understand. Now, as in the past, men need legal protection against sex-based discrimination, abuse or injustice much less often than women.
I don’t presume to predict that today’s gender identity activists will one day change their minds. But it has never seemed clearer to me than it does now that women and men have some different needs and experiences that the law must recognise. Far from an old fogey’s statute, I think the 15-year-old Equality Act, with its staunch protection of sex-based rights, is full of life.
- Susanna Rustin is a social affairs journalist and the author of Sexed: A History of British Feminism
RE: Why is there such a generational divide in views on sex and gender in Britain? ( S... - Newt - Jun 5 2025
"women and girls need sex-based protection because our sex makes us vulnerable in different ways from males" - how has this become an extreme idea?
It feels so hopeless sometimes when I think about how cheerfully my generation worked to dismantle nearly everything that past generations did for women and children.
It was so easy to trick them into thinking this was progress and anyone hanging onto antiquated notions of sex based oppression - what we are calling a 'dog whistle' - wasn't trying to remember the history behind our rights. Anyone still bleating on about 'biological differences' - another dog whistle- is just looking for excuses to hoard, gatekeep, control, and do everything in their power except make sure that there's not a single place that a girl or woman can go without a male. Not even a 'male chaperone' but literally any pervert that sees you walking down the street.
If you suggest this could cause problems- or worse, point out the problems that are occuring in real time- you should probably lose your job, social circles, and be publically shamed because how dare you! How dare you not want to do your part in the dumbest buyback program to ever exist. So long as we all agree to give up the right to privacy or protection from males in every single aspect of our lives.....maybe some people threatening to off themselves won't do it? Maybe they would have come to realize that we need sex based rights and suicide is never the answer. But let's just get rid of the idea of sex as a protected class or axis of oppression now so that we never risk finding out! Rant over.